Star Wars: The Last Jedi AUDIENCE Score - Thoughts?

@bowser · Bowser's Theater of Love
Dec 15, 2017, 9:13am PST

[12/15, 11 AM] AUDIENCE SCORE 60%
Average Rating: 3.5/5
User Ratings: 60,342

I'm going to post some thoughts from my initial reaction. (Went to the 7:30 show last night) :: SPOILER WARNING ::

First: I am a massive, loyal Star Wars fan. I have been since childhood.
I wore a lot of Star Wars apparel last night. My office and bedroom have Star Wars decorations aplenty.

It was a pretty good movie.

But, this is the first time I've ever left a theater for a Star Wars movie and felt disappointed.

I don't want to be completely negative... But, here are some issues that stuck out to me.

First -- The ending.
It felt like Disney just hit a reset button to make more money. We are even further from a conclusion to these Character's story arch.

So, one of the themes was... There will ALWAYS be good versus bad... Wrong vs right. Light vs dark.
Okay, I understand that. Thanks.

SNOKE -- WHO IS HE?? What was that?
Who was his master?
How did he come to power??????

Why was there this ultimate Sith that seemingly came out of nowhere, and ZERO light was shed on his story...? We got NOTHING on Snoke. No closure. Kylo Ren just got to kill him...
Which was cool, and unexpected... Probably the highlight of the film for me...

But, WTF, nothing on why he was so powerful, or how he came to be? No clues on his master?
Just... Weird to me.

Finn -- Wow.
I can't believe how bored I was with Finn's storyline.

Nothing about following Finn around was enjoyable for me. He really felt like some pointless subplot to pass time. I just... Didn't expect that.
"Filler Finn"
I was literally bored with Finn. Every time he was on the screen, I was anxious for the characters I care about to come back.

Luke sort of got a disappointing exit from the franchise. I'm glad he was at peace at the end... But, sheesh.

He's just gone now?

They did a good job of re-booting this existing world... And leaving a WIDE open door for future generations of Star Wars fans...

Maybe I'm too attached to the original characters.
This trilogy of trilogies has always been about the Skywalker family.
It is odd to me that Ben Solo and Leia are the only ones left.

And.... of all the generations of Jedi/Sith we've followed.... Kylo Ren has got to be the weakest Sith. He's so vulnerable.
Rey is so raw. She's all that's left of the Jedi, with no master to continue her minimal training. Very odd to me.

But... Maybe that's the point.

Kylo Ren is what young Vader should have been.

There were bright spots in the movie.
I loved Rey going to Kylo... I loved the showdown with Kylo/Rey/Snoke.
I wish we would have got answers about Snoke.

And now... Episode 9 -- It will be this new seed of a Resistance trying to bring down Kylo's "New Order." They have one movie to wrap up this Skywalker Trilogy of Trilogies.

I love Star Wars. I will be there. I'll go see The Last Jedi again...
I'm just... baffled by my own disappointment.

I became attached to Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor in Rogue One.
Rogue One's ending was incredible.

I don't want to know any more about Finn. It's weird to me. I still feel like Finn has only ever been driven by two things: A crush on Rey, and revenge on the First Order.

In moments of "doing the right thing," he'd run, bail, escape.
I thought him sacrificing at the end would be his redeeming moment. I don't know. I'm oddly anti-Finn right now. He's not a representative of the Resistance to me. Haha.

I might have had too high of expectations.
It was still a good movie, I enjoyed it... I'm just really confused and a bit let down.

I think they're trying to send a message of "hope," but I am now feeling hopeless like this FIGHT, this WAR, has to go on forever.

And, that might be the point... There will always be bad, always be darkness, that we have to fight. The fight never stops to do the right thing.

So, the next movie will be Kylo's New Order nearly destroying the Resistance ... They'll have their backs against the wall the whole time.

We, as the audience, will be told to never give up hope.... Don't succumb to an "evil" dictatorship.

Good guys will prevail at the end. Cue the theme song.

Rey's parents/line have nothing to do with anything. Reminder that any random kid can be born with gifts. (Or, Kylo lied and we get a surprise in 9)

No clue how after killing Emperor Palpatine and Vader turning back to the light side -- There is suddenly an all-powerful Sith Master of Snoke who builds a "First Order" and essentially has control of the galaxy just like The Empire... :: shrugs ::

It's worth going to in theaters… But, I understand why some people are let down. There are a lot of plot holes I didn't touch on, I just focused on what initially stuck out to me. 

What did everyone else think??

110 Replies

  • Reply #41

    I saw Lady Bird. It was an excellent coming of age story. Jackie from Roseanne really impressed me...haven't seen her in a movie since Scream 2! The football coach was the funniest part of the film. Lots of heart and drama without ever feeling like a melodrama. Number 2 on my Top 2017 right under Three Billboards. I was fortunate to see it since Star Wars forced it to a single showing per day :'(

    @ingy · Inglourious Basterd
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:52pm PST
  • Reply #42

    Well even the original trilogy had flaws, so saying a star wars film has flaws isn't exactly a groundbreaking revelation. The difference is, I believe the new movies flaws do not make the movies unwatchable, and are actually very close to level if flaws in the ot, whereas you fell the flaws are on the same level as the prequels. Whether you are less tolerant of the flaws than I am, or consider this flaws that I do not, they are still differing opinions. Neither right, neither wrong, both personal.

    @user4mw6b2 · seanroberts1978's Cineplex
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:54pm PST
  • Reply #43

    Yes, but the original films had solid characters, memorable dialogue, a story people cared about and, most importantly, CHARM. These new movies are bereft of charm, aside from a couple quips from Han Solo. They were campy, and they didn't take themselves too seriously. There is more tact in the words "I know" in Empire Strikes Back than anything in The Force Awakens.

    @ingy · Inglourious Basterd
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:58pm PST
  • Reply #44

    I've seen five movies in the last week (thank you movie pass).
    In order of enjoyment

    1. The last Jedi
    2. Disaster artist
    3. 3 billboards
    4. Ladybird
    5. Wonder

    No knock on any of them, they were all very enjoyable, and I agree with Ingy(gasp), the football coach was the best part of ladybird.

    @user4mw6b2 · seanroberts1978's Cineplex
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:59pm PST
  • Reply #45

    These new movies are bereft of charm, in your opinion. In my opinion, they have oodles of charm. Neither right, neither wrong.

    @user4mw6b2 · seanroberts1978's Cineplex
    Dec 15, 2017, 4:02pm PST
  • Reply #46

    You're telling me anything in the new movies compares to Han Solo at his best, Threepio bickering with Artoo, or Yoda? The closest thing was the droid in Rogue One, who was more of a person than all the human characters. It ain't the space battles that made people love Star's the characters and their relationships. Nothing in the new movies even comes close to the original trilogy for that. At least we knew the motivations of the main characters in the original trilogy, and their decisions matched their motivations. The original film was even written perfectly enough that Han Solo coming in to save Luke so he could blow up the death star was not some cheesy dues ex machina, but a logical decision his character would make based off the conversation Luke and Han had before the assault. On the flipside, you have The Resistance trying desperately to find Luke's whereabouts, only to just say '**** it' as Rey, who has no connection to Luke, flies off to meet a stranger instead, completely undermining the ENTIRE PLOT OF THE MOVIE. Also, LEIA HUGGED REY INSTEAD OF CHEWBACCA. Stupid, stupid STUPID script!

    @ingy · Inglourious Basterd
    Dec 15, 2017, 4:14pm PST
  • Reply #47

    No no, one is right, and that is the one that said the new films are soulless. There is nothing to care about in these movies. They lack anything resembling heart. Ford tried in TFA but the script was trash and then they killed off, literally, any seeds they planted. Now it's just flashy effects, ** characters literally designed by merchandising teams, and writers who seem to have no clue of what made Eps 4 and 5 so good.

    @undecided_voter · More Useless Sequels for President △
    Dec 15, 2017, 4:18pm PST
  • Reply #48

    So if you are trying to hide a child from his father, my would you give him to his family, tell him he's adopted, and let him keep his last name? Wouldn't it make more sense to change his last name and tell him the people who are raising him are his birth parents. Stupid, stupid, STUPID script!

    @user4mw6b2 · seanroberts1978's Cineplex
    Dec 15, 2017, 4:20pm PST
  • Reply #49

    I had no idea there were so many people who had no idea what the difference was between fact and opinion. Maybe I'm wrong. I apologize for liking the new films I hope the overlords can find it in their hearts to forgive me.

    @user4mw6b2 · seanroberts1978's Cineplex
    Dec 15, 2017, 4:23pm PST
  • Reply #50

    Ingy and President are a match made in heaven

    @2001 · 2001: A Cineplex △
    Dec 15, 2017, 4:29pm PST
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