Star Wars: The Last Jedi AUDIENCE Score - Thoughts?

@bowser · Bowser's Theater of Love
Dec 15, 2017, 9:13am PST

[12/15, 11 AM] AUDIENCE SCORE 60%
Average Rating: 3.5/5
User Ratings: 60,342

I'm going to post some thoughts from my initial reaction. (Went to the 7:30 show last night) :: SPOILER WARNING ::

First: I am a massive, loyal Star Wars fan. I have been since childhood.
I wore a lot of Star Wars apparel last night. My office and bedroom have Star Wars decorations aplenty.

It was a pretty good movie.

But, this is the first time I've ever left a theater for a Star Wars movie and felt disappointed.

I don't want to be completely negative... But, here are some issues that stuck out to me.

First -- The ending.
It felt like Disney just hit a reset button to make more money. We are even further from a conclusion to these Character's story arch.

So, one of the themes was... There will ALWAYS be good versus bad... Wrong vs right. Light vs dark.
Okay, I understand that. Thanks.

SNOKE -- WHO IS HE?? What was that?
Who was his master?
How did he come to power??????

Why was there this ultimate Sith that seemingly came out of nowhere, and ZERO light was shed on his story...? We got NOTHING on Snoke. No closure. Kylo Ren just got to kill him...
Which was cool, and unexpected... Probably the highlight of the film for me...

But, WTF, nothing on why he was so powerful, or how he came to be? No clues on his master?
Just... Weird to me.

Finn -- Wow.
I can't believe how bored I was with Finn's storyline.

Nothing about following Finn around was enjoyable for me. He really felt like some pointless subplot to pass time. I just... Didn't expect that.
"Filler Finn"
I was literally bored with Finn. Every time he was on the screen, I was anxious for the characters I care about to come back.

Luke sort of got a disappointing exit from the franchise. I'm glad he was at peace at the end... But, sheesh.

He's just gone now?

They did a good job of re-booting this existing world... And leaving a WIDE open door for future generations of Star Wars fans...

Maybe I'm too attached to the original characters.
This trilogy of trilogies has always been about the Skywalker family.
It is odd to me that Ben Solo and Leia are the only ones left.

And.... of all the generations of Jedi/Sith we've followed.... Kylo Ren has got to be the weakest Sith. He's so vulnerable.
Rey is so raw. She's all that's left of the Jedi, with no master to continue her minimal training. Very odd to me.

But... Maybe that's the point.

Kylo Ren is what young Vader should have been.

There were bright spots in the movie.
I loved Rey going to Kylo... I loved the showdown with Kylo/Rey/Snoke.
I wish we would have got answers about Snoke.

And now... Episode 9 -- It will be this new seed of a Resistance trying to bring down Kylo's "New Order." They have one movie to wrap up this Skywalker Trilogy of Trilogies.

I love Star Wars. I will be there. I'll go see The Last Jedi again...
I'm just... baffled by my own disappointment.

I became attached to Jyn Erso and Cassian Andor in Rogue One.
Rogue One's ending was incredible.

I don't want to know any more about Finn. It's weird to me. I still feel like Finn has only ever been driven by two things: A crush on Rey, and revenge on the First Order.

In moments of "doing the right thing," he'd run, bail, escape.
I thought him sacrificing at the end would be his redeeming moment. I don't know. I'm oddly anti-Finn right now. He's not a representative of the Resistance to me. Haha.

I might have had too high of expectations.
It was still a good movie, I enjoyed it... I'm just really confused and a bit let down.

I think they're trying to send a message of "hope," but I am now feeling hopeless like this FIGHT, this WAR, has to go on forever.

And, that might be the point... There will always be bad, always be darkness, that we have to fight. The fight never stops to do the right thing.

So, the next movie will be Kylo's New Order nearly destroying the Resistance ... They'll have their backs against the wall the whole time.

We, as the audience, will be told to never give up hope.... Don't succumb to an "evil" dictatorship.

Good guys will prevail at the end. Cue the theme song.

Rey's parents/line have nothing to do with anything. Reminder that any random kid can be born with gifts. (Or, Kylo lied and we get a surprise in 9)

No clue how after killing Emperor Palpatine and Vader turning back to the light side -- There is suddenly an all-powerful Sith Master of Snoke who builds a "First Order" and essentially has control of the galaxy just like The Empire... :: shrugs ::

It's worth going to in theaters… But, I understand why some people are let down. There are a lot of plot holes I didn't touch on, I just focused on what initially stuck out to me. 

What did everyone else think??

110 Replies

  • Reply #31

    Wasn't just a reference to just this post, but a response to being rubbed the wrong way on these boards for years.
    Your post here however does scream, I'm so much smarter than you star wars fan sheep, who were stupid to realize that you only liked tfa for the fan service and weren't judging it as a movie. Just came off very elitist. And honestly I don't think the majority of people here hated last jedi, just saw some issues with it. But the was enough for you to proclaim your superiority.

    @user4mw6b2 · seanroberts1978's Cineplex
    Dec 15, 2017, 2:43pm PSTEdited
  • Reply #32

    Did I just troll FML's provocateur into writing a 7-line response including all caps yelling and an edited post? Why are you triggered Ingy?

    @gd · GD
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:00pm PST
  • Reply #33

    All caps = emphasis
    Editing = was eating dinner while watching a lawyer breakdown a lawsuit...if you want to take my being distracted as a measure of victory, it's your prerogative to accept table scraps as a meal.

    As for the air of superiority, when I'm right, I'm right. Whether or not people outright hated it or were merely disappointed is irrelevant. So many people on here and elsewhere on the interwebs seemed incapable of admitting The Force Awakens of Rogue One had anything other than negligible faults, and yet now, on RT, there is a near 50% split showing people now see the faults are more than negligible and are faults in the very foundation of these films. I challenge ANYONE who saw many problems with The Last Jedi to rewatch The Force Awakens and Rogue One again and look for those same problems. I remember thinking the original Pirates movie was excellent, and that despite the two sequels (that I'd seen) being total crap I would always have the original, but years later when I re-watched it, it contained all the things I hated about the sequels...I just didn't see them; I couldn't even finish watching it.

    Believe me, when I watch The Last Jedi in June or whenever, FML will know exactly what I think about it!

    @ingy · Inglourious Basterd
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:15pm PST
  • Reply #34

    Can't wait for June!

    @2001 · 2001: A Cineplex △
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:30pm PST
  • Reply #35


    Did you get distracted during lock time too? Is that how you ended up playing Ferdinand six times?

    @gd · GD
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:35pm PST
  • Reply #36

    Mark your calendar! And don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more great content every day!

    @ingy · Inglourious Basterd
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:36pm PST
  • Reply #37

    I was at the movies during lock time...NOT seeing Star Wars, so yes, I was distracted by an actual good movie :)

    @ingy · Inglourious Basterd
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:38pm PST
  • Reply #38

    "As for the air of superiority, when I'm right, I'm right."
    That right there is the problem. I don't agree with you. That doesn't make me right, or you right, its all opinion, which you pass of as fact.

    And if you'll look at my rankings, in spite of its flaws, I did have last jedi, so going back and looking for those flaws in that movie is irrelevant. Rogue one also had it's issues, but the last battle was the best space battle in the star wars universe, and made up for all the flaws in the first half.

    So since people on the internet are agreeing with your star wars opinions makes you right, does that mean every time you've disagreed with the the internet consensus on a topic, you were wrong?

    @user4mw6b2 · seanroberts1978's Cineplex
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:38pm PST
  • Reply #39

    What was Ingy seeing at the movies?

    @2001 · 2001: A Cineplex △
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:39pm PST
  • Reply #40

    sean, I literally fell asleep during the last battle of Rogue One. I got yelled at for snoring.

    Liking a movie in spite of it's faults doesn't mean those faults don't exist, it just means you don't care about them. All I said I was right about is those faults existing, and more and more people with each Star Wars film are realizing it, not that you're wrong for liking the movies. All the things I complained about in TFA and Rogue One are what people are complaining about now, and that doesn't mean TLJ is an outlier, but actually proof of the constants.

    @ingy · Inglourious Basterd
    Dec 15, 2017, 3:47pm PST
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